Necrosis MHS wrote:
Interesting ideas, but what you fail to mention is what a pain in the ass it would be to edit all this. Possible? Absolutely. Convenient? Nope! As far as Supers being integrated into Siege goes, you DO realize that Nukes are forbidden, right? Assuming you don't know why, it's because it cheapens games. We work hard to add the monsters and don't care for Game Over class weapons that wipe things out. Being expensive doesn't really remedy it.
Except i did mention that the amount of damage that they can do can be adjusted, and there's no guarantee they can sucessfully damage the basecore in the firstplace. Hell, when i downloaded gauntlet and tore loose with it, i had to hit the weakest gate 4 times with the LV5 nuke before the damn thing would break. Scaling the superweapons damage output + making them expensive as hell would limit their usage.
As for actually adding them to siege, how hard can it seriously be to copy and paste a few things, if that? For all i know NW3 will work just fine with Siege without tweaking any code at all. Moreover, im pretty sure it would be possible to lock the more powerful ones until later waves.
LV0 would unlock once the Basecore was at Lv5, 1000 Ru capacity was available, and at least 2 superprotectors were built. After that, each tier of nuke would unlock after a certain wave.
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The Wave Bosses you speak of aren't just lying around in the code somewhere ready to add,
And the relevant data can be ripped out of maps (specifically, ATTAA0 (Super Titan and Super Skaarj) and Double Trouble (Super Pupae)
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and the "Everything at Once" thing you don't care for is kinda by design. To that end, WC isn't a fan of pulling standard MH Laziness. Wave Bosses would have to be more than just re-sized and re-textured.
Ok, i'll give you that. EDIT: I actually just thought of something that would mix things up a bit: Randomized modifiers on the bosses. So instead of the same boss spawning over and over again, each one is somewhat different. For instance, take the super-titan. Random modifier on its size, speed, damage, attack effect, and health. So you can have either a fairly bog standard titan that hits a little harder, or a midget (think pupae size) superfast hard hitting shockwave terror with a 10X multiplier on the HP amount with immunity to nukes and super pros thats nearly impossible to fucking hit let alone kill. Such a boss would be an utter nightmare to kill, but would be comparatively rare.
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Also, Intro Rape is a tradition, and large teams would wipe out waves with relative ease.
Not necessarily. I know little about coding but i do know that it would be a relatively trivial matter of getting the number of monsters to scale within a wave with the number of players.
A base pupae wave would consist of:
250-400 normal pupae
1 super boss pupae with 25,000 HP
To scale it: For every player (n) that joins, do
+250 normal pupae per player
+ 25,000 HP on the boss
So if i have 8 players on the server, thats approx 2000 pupae (a pain to deal with simply because of the sheer number of targets) and 200k HP (rev up them superprotectors because you're gonna need em, unless lol immune). Each wave can be adjusted according to the monsters within it. Also, having high HP on the boss is an excuse to whip out some nukes
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Your "Waves" idea is something that's occurred to WC to break up some of the monotony, make it a bit less predictable anyway.
Good, glad to know i wasnt the only one thinking about that.
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He's more motivated than I am so your ideas on the whole may be considered, but I wouldn't hold my breath on speedy implementation. There's plenty of other priorities that would consume so much free time that there'd be no time for FUN or a LIFE for MONTHS.
I have a large degree of patience. Hell i waited for the 2 years needed for NW3 to come out in the first place. If i can wait that long for the weapons pack to actually be made, i can wait that long again for someone to do something cool with it.
nOs*Rurik wrote:
I like the ideas and think that Wildcard should make a version w/NW3 and one without them, if isn't too much work.
About the Nuclear weapons... In a parallel dimention where Wildcard agrees in adding them. I think they should be WAY more expensive since they're so powerfull as to almost finish the whole game in one shot.
But, Chico is right... Making all those things would consume a bunch of time that Wildcard may not have. But who knows? They're good ideas!
Read the above, but here's a summary of it: Nukes much weakened, core shielded until last boss dies, bosses have a shitload of HP in the first place. And in case if you are thinking that the players can still spam a whole bunch of them for the desired effect, its not possible. The larger nukes have persistent after-effects that'll take down any nuke flying through it's aftermath, and they can be set to do what current Siege nukes do when they get shot down: a puff of smoke and thats it, and the poor sod who launched it is out of several thousand RU.
Necrosis MHS wrote:
If nothing else, I appreciated that the ideas weren't half-baked.
I actually try to put some effort into thinking about what is to go into my posts before i make them unlike some other people i know on the internet.
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